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the defense calls hhm a naive whistle-blower with good intention. >> said look he is a 25-year-old man, high had issues in his personal life and military, he was angry with how military was handles certain things, whistle-blower laws do not protect something in this, you hand over classified information. that is what they played on. i think that judge, kind of did pro verbal spit the baby. there -- proverbial split the baby. they will still get life. without going for the highest account,. lou: put it bluntly, the man acted against the interest of his country, violating his office, his -- i mean how can you not say this man betrayed his country. >> he did, absolutely, but from a legal standpoint, can you prove, and prosecution did not, he knowingly sent this out knowing, knowing is key, knowing that americans would be killed. lou: turning to if you will, real housewives of thong thong new jersey stars, teresa guidice, and joe, accused of conspiracy, what is going on? is this part of the show? >> i hope not, i don't watch up reality tv, but this does give it a bad name. they are accused
the defense calls hhm a naive whistle-blower with good intention. >> said look he is a 25-year-old man, high had issues in his personal life and military, he was angry with how military was handles certain things, whistle-blower laws do not protect something in this, you hand over classified information. that is what they played on. i think that judge, kind of did pro verbal spit the baby. there -- proverbial split the baby. they will still get life. without going for the highest...
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i will say, and this is no defense of the language, the language was clearly bad and sexist. this is not the first time at least this new york reporter has heard language like that from a press aide. there have been notoriously rough and aggressive and really colorful press aides in and around new york city and state government over the years. this was obviously a mistake by barbara morgan. this was obviously a mistake where she believed she was off the record or thought she was off the record, tpm stands by it. says she was not. that was very clear. she shouldn't have been saying even if they thought she was off the record in general but especially given the circumstances of this campaign. i think that yesterday, i saw anthony weiner's 5:00 event in midtown. they seem like a campaign having a very, very hard time this is not a surprise. they don't quite know what to do at this point. >> anyways, you wrote it seems weiner is trying to channel the spirit of ed koch who wasn't a bad guy. last night we saw a side of him come out when a voter challenged him on the question whethe
i will say, and this is no defense of the language, the language was clearly bad and sexist. this is not the first time at least this new york reporter has heard language like that from a press aide. there have been notoriously rough and aggressive and really colorful press aides in and around new york city and state government over the years. this was obviously a mistake by barbara morgan. this was obviously a mistake where she believed she was off the record or thought she was off the record,...
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the mob trial of "whitey" bulger, and the case moves to the defense now. lawyers for the accused mob boss said, yes, he ran a criminal enterprise for decades. still they say he did not take part in any of the 19 murders with which he is charged. for now we do not know whether "whitey" bulger himself will take the stan. the prosecution called 63 witnesses, many of whom painted a colorful picture of life in bulger's gang in south boston. this month, one associate testified that "whitey" bulger wore a wig and fake mustache to a double murder in 1982, driving a car that could spit smoke or an oil slick to help him get away. a map on the prosecution's witness list turned up dead on the side of a road. the lawyer for his ex-wife says his family believes his death is not related toothily the trial but that it is not confirmed, and witnesses claim that white bulger sent tips to the fbi, and a foreigner supervisor denied he was ever an informant. there's a chance now bulger could testify. what's the thinking? >> there's a chance. it would be highly unusual for a de
the mob trial of "whitey" bulger, and the case moves to the defense now. lawyers for the accused mob boss said, yes, he ran a criminal enterprise for decades. still they say he did not take part in any of the 19 murders with which he is charged. for now we do not know whether "whitey" bulger himself will take the stan. the prosecution called 63 witnesses, many of whom painted a colorful picture of life in bulger's gang in south boston. this month, one associate testified...
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he wants to be this great champion of national defense. what does he want to do? shut down military bases? >> well, the public beef started last week when governor christie took paul to task over his programs. joining me now, mark murray. mark, what is your take on what's happening here? >> well, it's gotten personal, it's gotten a bit nasty, but this current argument they're having over pork, i think the debate they were having last week is more important over national security. you're seeing chris christie kind of represent the robust, tough on security, tough on terrorism that we saw during the george w. bush years. rand paul has taken the mantle from his father with a heavy skepticism about u.s. roles in world affairs. and that's a healthy debate for the republican party to be having, after its two consecutive losses and presidential contests, to talk about what its direction is for 2016 and beyond. the question is, is this a debate they're having now or a debate we'll continue to see in 2015 and 2016? >> well, joe scarborough on his show this morning noted th
he wants to be this great champion of national defense. what does he want to do? shut down military bases? >> well, the public beef started last week when governor christie took paul to task over his programs. joining me now, mark murray. mark, what is your take on what's happening here? >> well, it's gotten personal, it's gotten a bit nasty, but this current argument they're having over pork, i think the debate they were having last week is more important over national security....
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these are freeeservices it is a second and tear of defense. lori: what about the consumer protection ready until bureau? should it be involved? >> it is the sleeping giant of these perpetrators that they do not want to wake up because i will tell you if they get involved the fines will be impressive so they want to keep it low-key they're very willing to credit you back if you find someone who will answer the phone to listen of your challenges but remember you'll have objections from the credit-card issuer to say i don't authorize that charge you don't always have to argue with the merchandiser data would to be involved eithe. lori: news that you can use. 14 billion each year. one of the side effects of the recovering housing market is the return of the house a slap. have detail how you get through those awkwar many moments? next. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ [ male announr ] if y can stand the heat, get off the test track. get the mercedes-benz you've been burning for at the summer event, going on now at your authorized mercedes-benz dealer. but hurry off
these are freeeservices it is a second and tear of defense. lori: what about the consumer protection ready until bureau? should it be involved? >> it is the sleeping giant of these perpetrators that they do not want to wake up because i will tell you if they get involved the fines will be impressive so they want to keep it low-key they're very willing to credit you back if you find someone who will answer the phone to listen of your challenges but remember you'll have objections from the...
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trying to work through how they approach the issue spirited defense of the questions between detroit and its creditors that is really something they're going to have to work out with its creditors. gerri: workout with its creditors, but the end of the day it's going to be on our backs as taxpayers. here is the real threat. i mean, detroit, yes to mombasa chicago. and cities and municipalities considering an obamacare bailout. detroit, chicago, stockton, the list goes on. like a snowball rolling downhill here. it spells disaster not only for obamacare by taxpayers. what could the cost b? >> the cost could be enormous. already spending two and a half trillion of the first full ten years of obamacare. imagine instead of having 30 million new workers in the expansion we have something that looks like 40. another 30%. the cost is staggering. what is interesting is the first person to put their finger on this is a democratic governor, former tennessee governor. early in the debate he said we have seen this in tennessee. is not going to work out well and now here we are. gerri: but look at
trying to work through how they approach the issue spirited defense of the questions between detroit and its creditors that is really something they're going to have to work out with its creditors. gerri: workout with its creditors, but the end of the day it's going to be on our backs as taxpayers. here is the real threat. i mean, detroit, yes to mombasa chicago. and cities and municipalities considering an obamacare bailout. detroit, chicago, stockton, the list goes on. like a snowball rolling...
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i don't think the defense expected he would be found innocent of aiding the enemy. it's still quite serious that he has been found guilty of five charges under the espionage act, which is an outdated act that was meant to suppress anti-war sentiment after world war i. people are very concerned that he's going to be eligible for 136 years in prison, as you said. >> which is why it's intriguing that some progressives see this as a victory. i understand the argument of aiding an enemy, which was always controversial. many people felt that would go nowhere. but he is facing 136 years. as i've pointed out, for some he was simply being a whistleblower to a wrong. he did not follow chain of command and certainly admits to taking the wrong approach, if you will -- i don't want to paraphrase his words, but he still faces 136 years here. >> well, and that is itself an injustice. i mean, it's ironic because in 1778 on this day the continental congress passed a law saying that it was the responsibility of people who worked for the government to report malfeasance, fraud, and mi
i don't think the defense expected he would be found innocent of aiding the enemy. it's still quite serious that he has been found guilty of five charges under the espionage act, which is an outdated act that was meant to suppress anti-war sentiment after world war i. people are very concerned that he's going to be eligible for 136 years in prison, as you said. >> which is why it's intriguing that some progressives see this as a victory. i understand the argument of aiding an enemy, which...
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criminal defense attorney danny savalas. i'm wolf blitzer. here in the "cnn newsroom" we want to welcome our viewers in the united states and around the world. what a powerful, dramatic day. pamela, walk us through some of the most compelling testimony moments of this hearing today. >> oh, it was truly just chilling, wolf, to hear some of the testimony, to hear the people who came up and gave the information about what ariel castro did over the past 10, 11 yo years to these young women. but the most powerful moments of today, of course, when we heard michelle knight, ariel castro's victim go up there and face her victim head on and speak. of course, it was incredulous to hear ariel castro speak. i have to tell you, after covering this story from the very beginning, i was shocked to hear what he had to say. it was really mind blowing to hear him explain why he did what he did. in fact, he basically said he knows what he did was wrong, but he justified his actions, even denied physically and sexually assaulting the women. he even went as far as
criminal defense attorney danny savalas. i'm wolf blitzer. here in the "cnn newsroom" we want to welcome our viewers in the united states and around the world. what a powerful, dramatic day. pamela, walk us through some of the most compelling testimony moments of this hearing today. >> oh, it was truly just chilling, wolf, to hear some of the testimony, to hear the people who came up and gave the information about what ariel castro did over the past 10, 11 yo years to these...
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he in doing that was trying to presumably his legal defense was trying to clear the decks and hope that they could avoid these more serious convictions which do involve very serious sentencing time, depending on what the judge decides. >> that's right. i mean the charges that he's pled guilty to already carry a sentence of up to 20 years and now there are these charges on top of that. but one of the things that manning's lawyers were trying to do in entering this plea was to show that manning to some degree was taking more responsibility for his actions and that could also influence the judge's thinking when she decides what sentence to impose on him. >> how does this case fit in with -- fit within the larger rubric of how this administration, this justice department, this pentagon has approached these national security cases. >> well, it is a historic verdict, even though manning was acquitted on the aiding the enemy charge because historically the espionage act charges have been brought against spies and against traitors and not against people who leaked information to the media with
he in doing that was trying to presumably his legal defense was trying to clear the decks and hope that they could avoid these more serious convictions which do involve very serious sentencing time, depending on what the judge decides. >> that's right. i mean the charges that he's pled guilty to already carry a sentence of up to 20 years and now there are these charges on top of that. but one of the things that manning's lawyers were trying to do in entering this plea was to show that...
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that's a tough argument the defense has. the state has a pretty strong case because these women would not be dead if he hadn't been acting with gross negligence. >> it is tragic as you say all the way around. we'll follow it and see if it goes all the way through. monica lindstrom, thank you. >> thank you. >>> a graying and humbled o.j. simpson says he is sorry for the crimes that put him in prison. perhaps for the rest of his life. here he was. appeared by video feed before nevada's parole board in support of his plea that he be granted parole for burglary, robbery and kidnapping convictions. simpson is serving a 33-year sentence and would still have to serve at least four years on two other charges, eve fn the board rules in his favor. describing his clean prison record, simpson said he is a mentor to other inmates. >> i think i -- on a daily basis i speak to more inmates than anybody. they tell me their stories. some of them tell me their crimes. as far as burglary, which i'm here for, robbery, i should say, they've told
that's a tough argument the defense has. the state has a pretty strong case because these women would not be dead if he hadn't been acting with gross negligence. >> it is tragic as you say all the way around. we'll follow it and see if it goes all the way through. monica lindstrom, thank you. >> thank you. >>> a graying and humbled o.j. simpson says he is sorry for the crimes that put him in prison. perhaps for the rest of his life. here he was. appeared by video feed...
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defense secretary jack hegel today says he is not as he put it crying wolf about sequester cuts. he laid out how the pentagon planning for what could be the smallest army since before world war ii will look like. >> if these abrupt cuts remain we risk fielding a force that over the next two years is unprepared to to a lack of training, may nice, and the latest equipment. cuts on this scale would in effect be a decade-long modernization holiday. lou: a deccde -- modernization holiday. here to discuss the $15 billion in cuts and half a trillion dollars over the next ten years is general jack keene, retired four-star army general, for me to the former army vice chief of staff and military analyst. great to have you with us. a decade the long holiday of modernization. are people really talking like that in washington d.c. today? >> absolutely. one of the things that has happened to us, and we know we have a struggling economy, but now we are voluntarily reducing the united states military from being a global superpower that it used to beat. i mean, it is quite extraordinary. this is
defense secretary jack hegel today says he is not as he put it crying wolf about sequester cuts. he laid out how the pentagon planning for what could be the smallest army since before world war ii will look like. >> if these abrupt cuts remain we risk fielding a force that over the next two years is unprepared to to a lack of training, may nice, and the latest equipment. cuts on this scale would in effect be a decade-long modernization holiday. lou: a deccde -- modernization holiday. here...
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why the defensive nature of the deal? because advertisers are going directly to facebook, google and twitter. i don't think this merger can stop that flow. if anything, if i was running one of these companies, i would have sought twitter. two do not necessarily have the smarts -- that's something facebook, twitter and google, to another extent, salesforce.com know how to do. with younger people increasingly turning to their mobile devices for news, sports and entertainment, you can't let them deck tate the terms to their clients. tv, web, print, radio, that's going to be viewed as a positive by the clients. somehow, the combined entity can wren f better terms from the online ad world. second deal is kind of a puzzle, frankly. it's a head scratcher. irish drug company for 8.6 billion in cash. knock off store brands, over the counter drugs. they can manufacture these products cheaply and charge less than the competition to make much more money than they do when they offer players like johnson & johnson and proctor and gambl
why the defensive nature of the deal? because advertisers are going directly to facebook, google and twitter. i don't think this merger can stop that flow. if anything, if i was running one of these companies, i would have sought twitter. two do not necessarily have the smarts -- that's something facebook, twitter and google, to another extent, salesforce.com know how to do. with younger people increasingly turning to their mobile devices for news, sports and entertainment, you can't let them...
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she spoke in his defense this time. how valuable is that, do you think? >> well, it is about as valuable as he is going to get. you know, that was -- maybe you can call it a hail mary but you can also call it -- perhaps at the end of the day secret weapon. i think that may be harder to see. she is somebody who is, you know, if you -- google her name, you probably find notoriously private in most of the articles written about her because that is historically true. she is -- classic behind-the-scenes woman to one of the most powerful and well-known politicians in the world. that's hillary clinton. having said that, she also is known and -- i know her a little bit but know people who know her very well as incredibly smart and incredibly savvy. i think that people who are looking at this and saying pooh huma, that's understandable and goodness knows that there should be a lot of sympathy for her. but she also -- she's -- knows what she is doing. she made a decision and wanted her husband to be mayor. she wanted to back him doing that. she's all in. when this
she spoke in his defense this time. how valuable is that, do you think? >> well, it is about as valuable as he is going to get. you know, that was -- maybe you can call it a hail mary but you can also call it -- perhaps at the end of the day secret weapon. i think that may be harder to see. she is somebody who is, you know, if you -- google her name, you probably find notoriously private in most of the articles written about her because that is historically true. she is -- classic...
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is showing, a much better trend, and people talk about defense of cyclicals, we talk about domestics as a feature. >> i want to raise another point. a note today was put out, ridesing long-term interest rates and a steepening yield curve is bullish for markets. people are saying it will crush the recover. he is saying take a look at the history, rising rates are a good signal. >> i generally agree if it a good signal when you are talking about an economy that is gaining traction. we can look through it, through credit conditions, we can look at it in terms of hiring intentions, across the board. i will buy into that, that we will get the earnings. the question that we focused on was the evaluation component of it. will the higher rates hurt the pes in the market. >> we are at 15 times earnings. and if you use a treasury or a b-double b-double-a, you feel it's hurting the recovery. >> bull or bear? >> longer term bull right now, we are in a correction mode. >> you are a bear right now, how bearish are you? >> i have not shorted the market, so that tells you once i decide to short the
is showing, a much better trend, and people talk about defense of cyclicals, we talk about domestics as a feature. >> i want to raise another point. a note today was put out, ridesing long-term interest rates and a steepening yield curve is bullish for markets. people are saying it will crush the recover. he is saying take a look at the history, rising rates are a good signal. >> i generally agree if it a good signal when you are talking about an economy that is gaining traction. we...
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it doesn't just see the future, geico's defensive driver,ke 13. good student and multi-policy discounts could save you hundreds of dollus. engineer: uh geico's discounts could save you hundreds of "doll-ars." it sounds like you're saying "dollus." dollus. engineeif you could accentuate the "r" sound of "dollars." are...are... are... engineer: are... arrrrrr. arrrrr. someone bring me an eye patch, i feel like a bloomin' pirate. geico. fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance. honestly, i feel like i nailed that. >>> the snooping is spreading. first phone calls and e-mails. now a new report exposing how folks at nsa can track your evey move on line, from the social media to president browsing. this is so sweeping. they don't have enough terabytes to hold all the stuff. what's going on? >> we don't know what is going only. we're feeling the toenail, thanks to edward snowden. the only reason we're having this conversation. the obama administration didn't want to have it. the bush administration didn't want to. the direct
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another line of defense is they scoop up tons but it's okay because they have a lot of rules about it. second there are questions about whether there have ever been any violation. with today's declassified information, can you shed any light on what these violations on americans' privacy were? >> i can't get into those details, but again i will try to add some context. first, those violations at the intelligence community were violations of court orders, jake. so when you hear something say there aren't any violations we point to that one specifically. in my view didn't fully portrayed the extend of the problems. >>> all right. senator ron wyden, we've been talking about this issue for weeks, we've wanted you as a guest, and we'll continue to try to get you on the show -- >> we'll do it again. >> thank you, senator. >>> coming up, move over joe camel. energy drinks are being accused of intentionally marketing to children. is this stuff even safe for your kids to drink. >>> later, have you had your daily dose of propaganda today? no? you might want to start following the inns that gram
another line of defense is they scoop up tons but it's okay because they have a lot of rules about it. second there are questions about whether there have ever been any violation. with today's declassified information, can you shed any light on what these violations on americans' privacy were? >> i can't get into those details, but again i will try to add some context. first, those violations at the intelligence community were violations of court orders, jake. so when you hear something...
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today sentencing follows what private bradley manning's defense called a huge victory, guilty on 20 counts including espionage but not guilty on the mode serious charge, aiding the enemy. he gave wikileaks battle plans, diplomatic cables and this video, a helicopter that killed innocent civilians in baghdad. >> the government is very, very serious about protecting the status of classified information and people who disseminate it are playing with fire. >> reporter: the judge found manning negligent but said he did not intend for the secrets to land in the hands of osama bin laden which they did. still, experts and supporters say the espionage convictions are unprecedented. >> historically the charges have been brought against spies and against traitors and not against people who leaked information to the media. >> it is a serious precedent. it is a serious abuse. it will mean the end of national security journalism in the united states as we know it. >> reporter: the white house and state department had no comment. in the state, the top democrat and republican said justice was served. now
today sentencing follows what private bradley manning's defense called a huge victory, guilty on 20 counts including espionage but not guilty on the mode serious charge, aiding the enemy. he gave wikileaks battle plans, diplomatic cables and this video, a helicopter that killed innocent civilians in baghdad. >> the government is very, very serious about protecting the status of classified information and people who disseminate it are playing with fire. >> reporter: the judge found...
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the defense denied that bradley manning aided the enemy. arguing there's no evidence at all that he knew al qaeda militants ever even looked at wikileaks, and today it appears the judge agreed. bradley manning shows very little emotion, might have smiled at the end. catherine herridge is live. tell us more how this plate out in court. >> the military courthouse is about three-quarters of a mile from where i'm standing right now, and just before 1:00 eastern, about 12 minutes before that hour, private first class gradley mapping entered the courtroom and at that time, at least initially, he appeared fairly relaxed but as the clock tick down he became understandably tense. when verdict was read, manning stood up, faced the judge directly with his arms like stove pipes at his side. showed virtually no emotion, and two dozen of his supporters were in the courtroom as public spectators, and they were silent. afterwards, those speck taters connected with the defense attorneys and there was some applause, but virtually that was it, shep offered. d
the defense denied that bradley manning aided the enemy. arguing there's no evidence at all that he knew al qaeda militants ever even looked at wikileaks, and today it appears the judge agreed. bradley manning shows very little emotion, might have smiled at the end. catherine herridge is live. tell us more how this plate out in court. >> the military courthouse is about three-quarters of a mile from where i'm standing right now, and just before 1:00 eastern, about 12 minutes before that...
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defense secretary chuck hagel called egypt's military chief to inform him that the united states is going to hold off on sending four f-16 fighter jets to cairo. >> this comes weeks after they overthrew the first democratically elected president. the people of egypt should rally in support now of the military. >> this is significant. this is a military man in uniform. not a civilian interim president. fighting between pro and anti-muslim brotherhood factions continue on the streets of cairo. >> at least nine people have been killed. many were hurt. reza is live in cairo. it seems like the call of desperation that could mean for violence. what are we seeing? >> reporter: the streets are pretty calm now. is it going to stay that way with the call for mass demonstrations? it's not clear. these are pretty dramatic statements by head of the general armed forces. if anyone had any doubts that forces were playing a powerful role in domestic politics in this conflict, these statements by the general could clear up some of those doubts because the armed forces has openly injected itself in this co
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they don't respond the same way, they have different brain structures, so those defense mechanisms aren't going to work. so the sociopath has a competitive advantage for that particular reason. >> m.e. thomas, thanks for joining us today. >>> we'll be right back with my final thoughts. ♪ we'll share the same dream ♪ ♪ at the dark end of the street ♪ ♪ ♪ you and me ♪ you and me ♪ you and me ♪ ♪ you and me [ female announcer ] some people like to pretend a flood could never happen to them. and that their homeowners insurance protects them. [ thunder crashes ] it doesn't. stop pretending. only flood insurance covers floods. ♪ visit floodsmart.gov/pretend to learn your risk. there's a new way to fight litter box odor. introducing tidy cats with glade tough odor solutions. two trusted names, one amazing product. if you have high cholesterol, here's some information that may be worth looking into. in a clinical trial versus lipitor, crestor got more high-risk patients' bad cholesterol to a goal of under 100. getting to goal is important, especially if you have high cholest
they don't respond the same way, they have different brain structures, so those defense mechanisms aren't going to work. so the sociopath has a competitive advantage for that particular reason. >> m.e. thomas, thanks for joining us today. >>> we'll be right back with my final thoughts. ♪ we'll share the same dream ♪ ♪ at the dark end of the street ♪ ♪ ♪ you and me ♪ you and me ♪ you and me ♪ ♪ you and me [ female announcer ] some people like to pretend a flood...
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he was aware of the report he and others authored within the defense department and tried to get those in congress and the executive branch to pay attention to the findings in the report and went to the new york times as a last resort. in the case of bradley manning and edward snowden, they went to the guardian and to wikileak' as a first resort so i don't see them as whistle-blowers. i think in the case of bradley manning, he had no idea what was in many of the documents he provided. i don't think there is any human being that yet has gone through all 700,000 documents. so i think it's hard -- the first cable he provided was about a dispute called i save between iceland's great britain and the netherlands. the united states was not a party to it. so from iraq i don't think he's in a position to evaluate u.s. policy towards iceland and decide whether it's right or wrong. >> i mean, alan, if you don't bun niche the whistle-blowers, traitors, whatever you want to call them, no matter what side you're on, you can't have open season. you can't have everybody you have access to classified m
he was aware of the report he and others authored within the defense department and tried to get those in congress and the executive branch to pay attention to the findings in the report and went to the new york times as a last resort. in the case of bradley manning and edward snowden, they went to the guardian and to wikileak' as a first resort so i don't see them as whistle-blowers. i think in the case of bradley manning, he had no idea what was in many of the documents he provided. i don't...
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>> the president has made clear, he told congress he will not sign a bill, if it fixes defense at the expense of domestic spending. the republicans are writing bills that do not have a way to solve their own problems. i do not think they can pass the bills that will result in terms of the cuts to education, to health, the to all the things that the american people care about. >> are you saying that the president would veto a bill, a resolution to the budget shut down, the budget crisis is, at the end of september that included $100 billion in new spending cuts? >> what i'm saying is that congress has to write bills that meets the challenges that that the president setsorth to saturday investing in our future, and congress cannot steal from the domestic priorities to deal with cuts across the board. it would be right to get together and have a sensible set of policies, to replace the cuts. the cuts were to drive sensible policy. they were not supposed to happen. the surprising thing is, there's people claiming credit for thing tharps designed to be bad policy and senseless across the b
>> the president has made clear, he told congress he will not sign a bill, if it fixes defense at the expense of domestic spending. the republicans are writing bills that do not have a way to solve their own problems. i do not think they can pass the bills that will result in terms of the cuts to education, to health, the to all the things that the american people care about. >> are you saying that the president would veto a bill, a resolution to the budget shut down, the budget...
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geico's defensive driver,ke 13. good student and multi-policy discounts could save you hundreds of dollus. engineer: uh geico's discounts could save you hundreds of "doll-ars." it sounds like you're saying "dollus." dollus. engineeif you could accentuate the "r" sound of "dollars." are...are... are... engineer: are... arrrrrr. arrrrr. someone bring me an eye patch, i feel like a bloomin' pirate. geico. fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance. honestly, i feel like i nailed that. >>> for the sentencing phase of his hearing. he is facing up to 136 years behind bars. the the feds wanted to give manning a life sentence, but the judge found him not guilty of the most serious charge, aiding the enemy. manning was found guilty on 20 other charges, though. as you know, manning is a controversial figure. he had a tough life before he was accused of the biggest leak in u.s. history. here's cnn's brian todd. >> reporter: he was once on suicide watch in a military brig, now, private bradley manni
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we're going home for six weeks and we have defense workers going home -- >> no, no, mr. israel, that's the affordable care act increasing part-time workers. that's nothing to do with that bill. >> well, look, they can repeal the affordable care act 40 times, 50 times, we're going to focus on getting it fixed while they're talking about trying to repeal it and putting health insurance companies back in charge. >> of course. the bill that failed would fund the hard and, as you tail, the transportation departments. >> correct. >> but wasn't that failure an implicit repudiation of the paul ryan budget? it seems once dollar values were attached to the cuts, suddenly even some republicans began to faint and fall over. >> well, that's right. some republicans have realized that their extremism and crisis and ideological injection into every debate is hurting our economy, and now there are only a few republicans who are now realizing there's got to be a better way. i hope when they go home in august and have to defend the indefensible and explain to their constituents why they ha
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they are bankrupting the money and not letting enough money left over for national defense. he was referring to the push for hurricane sandy relief funds last winter. joining me from pennsylvania is democratic strategist chris and national gop strategist chip. chip, when paul fired back at christie yesterday he told reporters that the governor hurts republican cancels in the national election. is this what this is become b e about? >> i find it interesting that government christie took on senator paul in this and found it more interesting that senator paul would fire back and start this back and forth that usually leads to people like chris and myself to do that on a staff level for a couple of years. now the heavyweights are in the fight early. >> chris christie talking about government surveillance last week, pointed to what he calls a dangerous strain of libertaria libertarianis libertarianisms. he said are you referring to rand paul? he said you can name any one of them and he is one of them. i want them to come to new jersey and sit across from the orphans and widows an
they are bankrupting the money and not letting enough money left over for national defense. he was referring to the push for hurricane sandy relief funds last winter. joining me from pennsylvania is democratic strategist chris and national gop strategist chip. chip, when paul fired back at christie yesterday he told reporters that the governor hurts republican cancels in the national election. is this what this is become b e about? >> i find it interesting that government christie took on...
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the record why castro is receiving a life sentence plus 1,000 years but what also struck me is the defense is going to use this hearing to also humanize castro in some way. you heard that castro indicated that he was not a monster, and he wanted to portray that to the public, so what strikes me is the cross-examination from the defense counsel of these witnesses in an attempt to somehow humanize castro and also make a reasoning with respect to why castro conducted this heinous crime. >> quickly, karen, you have dealt with victims of sex crimes before. what must it be like for these women, they're not in the courtroom right now. we may hear from michelle knight in a little bit. what must it be like for them to know this information is now being made public? >> i think it will help them, and i think that the prosecution wanted to lessen the amount. >> hang one second. we're looking at michelle knight in the courtroom right now. she has entered the courtroom right now giving hugs and she has given one of the most dramatic statements we saw on video a couple of weeks ago talking about her brav
the record why castro is receiving a life sentence plus 1,000 years but what also struck me is the defense is going to use this hearing to also humanize castro in some way. you heard that castro indicated that he was not a monster, and he wanted to portray that to the public, so what strikes me is the cross-examination from the defense counsel of these witnesses in an attempt to somehow humanize castro and also make a reasoning with respect to why castro conducted this heinous crime. >>...
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see where we can go from here and understand that that was a case about self-defense and not about race. >> i think it's an interesting point. liberal blacks and conservative blacks ought to sit down together. >> absolutely. >> and have that discussion. no honkies at the table. okay? just start off with people who have divergent views in the community. >> bob? >> i like it that he said honky. i like that. >> oh, my goodness. >> it's not honky-tonk like country music. >> i have been called a honky before. >> that's because you're always in the car honking your car. >> i think jay z seems very sincere to me. did not see that kind of sincerity when he took the pleasure trip to cuba and didn't mention the fact there that most african-americans there are treated very poorly in cuba and the people there are desperate for any sort of freedom they can get their hands on. that was a pure publicity ploy in cuba. i think -- i thought what he just said was very sincere. but i help but wonder if this is so misguided when you look at the fact there was a trial, there was a jury. there was the convict
see where we can go from here and understand that that was a case about self-defense and not about race. >> i think it's an interesting point. liberal blacks and conservative blacks ought to sit down together. >> absolutely. >> and have that discussion. no honkies at the table. okay? just start off with people who have divergent views in the community. >> bob? >> i like it that he said honky. i like that. >> oh, my goodness. >> it's not honky-tonk like...
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there is a complete defense for whistle blowers to criminality. think about it. the people who expose the milan massac massacre, should they have been prosecuted. auschwitz, should that person have been prosecuted? >> david, i'd love to get your thoughts on this. the debate over whether or not lives have been harmed is still very a raging debate. a lot of people would argue the other side of that. >> one thing that bradley manning did was he didn't leak documents on a given one of these things, you know, that michael just went through was a major dump that had what some people depending where they sit, good leaks and bad leaks. to me, it's very troubling that he would be prosecuted under the espionage act even though he was let off on the aiding and abetting the enemy, which i thought was ridiculous, is this really espionage. if you look at the washington post, they have a great chart this morning, 20 odd different counts. michael i'm sure is familiar with all of them. only a few espionage. there were others about leaking classified information, violating regulat
there is a complete defense for whistle blowers to criminality. think about it. the people who expose the milan massac massacre, should they have been prosecuted. auschwitz, should that person have been prosecuted? >> david, i'd love to get your thoughts on this. the debate over whether or not lives have been harmed is still very a raging debate. a lot of people would argue the other side of that. >> one thing that bradley manning did was he didn't leak documents on a given one of...
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geico's defensive driver,ke 13. good student and multi-policy discounts could save you hundreds of dollus. engineer: uh geico's discounts could save you hundreds of "doll-ars." it sounds like you're saying "dollus." dollus. engineeif you could accentuate the "r" sound of "dollars." are...are... are... engineer: are... arrrrrr. arrrrr. someone bring me an eye patch, i feel like a bloomin' pirate. geico. fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance. honestly, i feel like i nailed that. >>> they pat you down but is it the tsa that needs a shakedown? misconduct is up 26% in the last three years so what exactly are these screeners doing on the job? doug mckelway has more from washington. >> the report shows misconduct cases at the tsa have risen by 27% over three years, it documents more than 9,000 cases of wrongdoing by agents, the largest category, 36% was showing up late for work and improper leave but others were much more serious, it cites one case of a tsa theft network in newark, new jer
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, according to the defense, that he was trying to reveal abuses and crimes actually committed by the u.s. military in the wars in both iraq and afghanistan. legal experts say the prosecution may have a hard time proving aiding the enemy in this case because you have to prove intent and although some of these documents ended up in the hands of former al qaeda leader osama bin laden no evidence whatsoever, none presented during the trial, that bradley manning knew that those documents would end up in his hands. in fact, one legal expert, military legal expert told us the only case he remembers was back in the civil war where a union soldier was charged with aiding the enemy when he leaked the position of union troops to a newspaper in alexandria, virginia. >>> all workers have been accounted for after explosions rocked a propane plant in florida overnight. eight people taken to the hospital and no word on what ignited the explosions. >>> a woman arrested in connection with vandalism at the national cathedral in washington. she splattered stuff through chaples yesterday. they found the
, according to the defense, that he was trying to reveal abuses and crimes actually committed by the u.s. military in the wars in both iraq and afghanistan. legal experts say the prosecution may have a hard time proving aiding the enemy in this case because you have to prove intent and although some of these documents ended up in the hands of former al qaeda leader osama bin laden no evidence whatsoever, none presented during the trial, that bradley manning knew that those documents would end...
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geico's defensive driver,ke 13. good student and multi-policy discounts could save you hundreds of dollus. engineer: uh geico's discounts could save you hundreds of "doll-ars." it sounds like you're saying "dollus." dollus. engineeif you could accentuate the "r" sound of "dollars." are...are... are... engineer: are... arrrrrr. arrrrr. someone bring me an eye patch, i feel like a bloomin' pirate. geico. fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance. honestly, i feel like i nailed that. saving time by booking an appointment online, even smarter. online scheduling. available now at meineke.com. >>> heated debate and privacy rights have gotten hotter. chris christie is blasting rand paul for challenging the nsa program. he said this. this strain of lib ter yanism is going through parties right now and making big headlines. i think it's a dangerous thought. you can name any number of people and paul is one of them. he goes onto say these esoteric bedates, i want them to come to new jersey and si
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she says it was self-defense, claiming she was being raped, fought back. if convicted she could be septembered to death by lethal injection prosecutors say geneva case is the only other person that knows the truth. >> reporter: why is it that you don't want to testify. >> because i have the right -- our relationship is our relationship. i feel i should have equal to everybody else. it should be the same. i should be the same as you. i love her, and i think that we should have the same opportunity as anybody else out here. >> reporter: the case is involving spousal privilege, commonly used in court cases to protect spouses from testifying against each other. case talked exclusively, but would not discuss what she knows about the killing. she says she and cleary were separated at the time, but it was just a spat. >> so you still love bobbi jo? independents yes, i do, very much. >> even after all this. >> even after all this. i'll always love her. >> reporter: the two women entered into a civil union in vermont a decade ago, but the problem is this isn't verm
she says it was self-defense, claiming she was being raped, fought back. if convicted she could be septembered to death by lethal injection prosecutors say geneva case is the only other person that knows the truth. >> reporter: why is it that you don't want to testify. >> because i have the right -- our relationship is our relationship. i feel i should have equal to everybody else. it should be the same. i should be the same as you. i love her, and i think that we should have the...
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the best defense against all of these forces, global competition, economic polarizati polarization, is the strength of the community. we need a new push to rebuild run-down neighborhoods. we need new partnerships with some of the hardest-hit towns in america to get them back on their feet. and because no one who works full time in america should have to live in poverty, i'm going to keep making the case that we need to raise the minimum wage because it's lower right now than it was when ronald reagan took office. it's time for the minimum wage to go up. [ applause ] we're not a people who allow chance of birth to decide life's biggest winners or losers. after years in which we've seen how easy it can be for any of us to fall on hard times, folks in gaelsburg, folks in the quad cities, you know they're good people who work hard. sometimes they get a bad break. plant leaves, somebody gets sick, somebody loses a home. we've seen it in our family and friends and neighbors. we've seen it happen. that means we cannot turn our back when bad breaks hit any of our fellow citizens. so good jobs,
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deborah, today, day one for the defense. who testified? >> reporter: well, we can tell you, first of all, what's not clear just yet is whether whitey bulger is going to testify. his lawyer continues to allude to that. right now it's looking as if it's a strong possibility. his defense is down to 14 witnesses. they're going to be called over the next couple of days. one of the key witnesses was the mother of murder victim debra hussy. but she yesterday notified the court she's got brain cancer and is too sick to testify. the reason the defense wanted to call her is because they wanted to cast doubt on whether it was bulger or flemmi who actually killed the girl. flemmi had sexually abused his commonwealth stepdaughter. bulger's lawyers are saying he has so much more motive than bulger. also on the list a crime associate likely to take the fifth because, brooke, during this trial he was actually imly ka -- implicated in one of the murder. he's about to get his own reality show on a separate issue. bulger's team today tried to refute the noti
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we've made these contracts, the american government has made contracts with these defense contractors to supply these weapons and other military things. equipment. and bottom line is when you cut that off, you're still -- the american government is still paying the bills for that. it's not saving us money to cut off that aid. >> president obama faces a dilemma here because on the one hand he didn't like the authoritarian government that morsi and the muslim brotherhood had set up, on the other hand morsi was the democratically elected president of the country. so the authority now seems to be the military, a small group of generals, and the mob in the street. what's the president do here? >> well, the problem is tit for tat depression and violence do not a democracy make. this is not a building block for democracy despite the public support that the army has. you have to think back to 1992 when the algerian army canceled elections to prevent islamists from taking over and it plunged that country into a civil war. ten years. and i think the secretary of state john kerry was right when
we've made these contracts, the american government has made contracts with these defense contractors to supply these weapons and other military things. equipment. and bottom line is when you cut that off, you're still -- the american government is still paying the bills for that. it's not saving us money to cut off that aid. >> president obama faces a dilemma here because on the one hand he didn't like the authoritarian government that morsi and the muslim brotherhood had set up, on the...
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let's talk about it with a criminal defense attorney, former prosecutor and remembbec criminal trial attorney as well. we've been sitting here watching. we used the words bizarre, the only word i can think of to describe castro defending himself. what kind of courage do you think it took for her? >> my gosh, when she said, from this moment on, you will not define me, i got goosebumps. she spoke to him and about him with a senses of humanity and forgiveness i'm sorry, ladies, i would not have been able to have. that's amazing for her and sp k speaks volumes about her and i feel encouraged she will have as normal a life going forward thank god anybody in that position could ever hope for. >> there was already a basic plea agreement in place. today, the judge did hear from her and family members and other victims and he did talk to castro about how he impacted their life and went through those aggravating factors and talked to him about what he had done. >> i thought that was really really fabulous for the victims to get their day in court without having to testify. what happened was a
let's talk about it with a criminal defense attorney, former prosecutor and remembbec criminal trial attorney as well. we've been sitting here watching. we used the words bizarre, the only word i can think of to describe castro defending himself. what kind of courage do you think it took for her? >> my gosh, when she said, from this moment on, you will not define me, i got goosebumps. she spoke to him and about him with a senses of humanity and forgiveness i'm sorry, ladies, i would not...
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the other part is, if anyone might need self-defense, you could make the case it's george zimmerman. everybody hates him because he killed trayvon martin. but he was found not guilty and he's entitled to that firearm. >> kristen, are you comfortable with george zimmerman wandering around with this gun? >> i agree with mark. if anybody wants protection right now, his family says he's been receiving death threats. it was in the glove compartment. it's not like he was out looking for trouble. i think george zimmerman wants to stay off the radar as much as possible. >> he's not doing very well, is he? let's move on. i have a view about it. alex rodriguez may be banned for life from major league baseball. eight others may be suspended. pretty extraordinary if a-rod gets banned for life. >> it would be extraordinary, but it would be necessary. a-rod has been lying from the begin. everyone said jose conseco was a troublemaker, but everything he's told us has been true. a-rod had an opportunity to tell the truth, but he's lied and lead and obstructed justice and he's out of a career now. >>
the other part is, if anyone might need self-defense, you could make the case it's george zimmerman. everybody hates him because he killed trayvon martin. but he was found not guilty and he's entitled to that firearm. >> kristen, are you comfortable with george zimmerman wandering around with this gun? >> i agree with mark. if anybody wants protection right now, his family says he's been receiving death threats. it was in the glove compartment. it's not like he was out looking for...
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"the washington post" is reporting that attorney general holder he hopes that his legacy is a defense of civil rights. but my question for you, ma'am, is will it be congress's legacy, as well? >> well, i certainly hope it's congress's legacy. i have to tell you after the supreme court came back with the decision against voting rights, you know, talking to some of my colleagues that have been in congress for a long time, they're encouraged we can do a fix here that would be bipartisan as a new member of congress only here three years, it's hard for me to imagine that, but i will continue to be hopeful and i think you know under john connyers can' leadership, we will be able to get the job done. >> i know the british are generally regarded as more responsive towards the notion of irony. doesn't it seem ironic to you that the supreme court decides knock down sections of the voting rights act and within a matter of weeks, this north carolina governor signs a bill that introduces the most severe oppressive you know kind of ideas proposals that will suppress the vote? >> well, i guess now h
"the washington post" is reporting that attorney general holder he hopes that his legacy is a defense of civil rights. but my question for you, ma'am, is will it be congress's legacy, as well? >> well, i certainly hope it's congress's legacy. i have to tell you after the supreme court came back with the decision against voting rights, you know, talking to some of my colleagues that have been in congress for a long time, they're encouraged we can do a fix here that would be...
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defense was in a difficult position. they had to argue something and i respect them. another question? >> not working today. can you give us the dialogue going in there? why did she want to be there today? >> who would like to speak to that? erin, you're the most familiar with it. >> i think that you got a glimpse of a young woman that was taken 11 years ago and today was her first day of real liberation. she was able to confront the person who harmed her for 11 years and she was able to tell you who she was and the pain and the angst that she suffered for 13,226 days. i think you all got a good feeling when she got done speaking because she will survive but she has gone through a lot of physical and emotional pain throughout the 11 years. >> did you talk to her afterwards? what did she have to say about his remarks? >> no. she was taken away by her attorney and the victim's advocate. i think those are going to be only known to her unless she wishes to share them with the media, but i think she was very relieved when mr. mcginty sent the officers out to talk to them a
defense was in a difficult position. they had to argue something and i respect them. another question? >> not working today. can you give us the dialogue going in there? why did she want to be there today? >> who would like to speak to that? erin, you're the most familiar with it. >> i think that you got a glimpse of a young woman that was taken 11 years ago and today was her first day of real liberation. she was able to confront the person who harmed her for 11 years and she...
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we expect that defense secretary chuck hagel is also going to be attending and participating in this. you are listening to "taps." honoring those that served in the war and the president will go ahead and lay a wreath. that wreath laying ceremony. listen. ♪ we will go back when he hear the president making those remarks. a touching moment there. >> beautiful to hear that. >>> let's talk about edward snowden. new developments in the case of the nsa leaker. edward snowden will not face the death penalty. he won't be tortured. that is about all the u.s. is promising, however, as it is going to try to persuade russia to hand over the notorious nsa leaker. we heard from attorney general eric holder. he wrote a letter saying earlier in the week the charges he faces do not carry that possibility. the united states would not seek the death penalty even if mr. snowden were charged with additional death penalty eligible crimes. >> jill dougherties that latest in the efforts to get snowden back to the united states. >> family, home in paradise. i lived in great comfort. >> reporter: the u.s. i
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, so i think it's precisely those people that are making us weak in defense. i didn't start this one, and i don't plan on starting things by criticizing other republicans, but if they wan to make me the target, you know, they will get it back in spades. >> one makes me think of a high school student council election, give me, give me, give me. republican king of new york issued a stark warning to the party on cnn's "state of the union." here he is. >> when you have rand paul actually comparing snowden to martin luther king or henry david thoreau, this is madness. this is the anti-war left wing democrats of the 1960s that nominated george mcgovern and destroyed their party for almost 20 years. i don't want that happening to our party. >> love this fight. joining me now are two msnbc political analysts. neither strong republicans from what i can tell. david corn with "mother jones" and jonathan alter who comes with an old-line democratic party. "the center holds" is his great book. beautifully written book by john alter, "obama and his enemies." let me start wit
, so i think it's precisely those people that are making us weak in defense. i didn't start this one, and i don't plan on starting things by criticizing other republicans, but if they wan to make me the target, you know, they will get it back in spades. >> one makes me think of a high school student council election, give me, give me, give me. republican king of new york issued a stark warning to the party on cnn's "state of the union." here he is. >> when you have rand...
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defense attorneys also calling a retired f.b.i. agent to the stand, trying to prove whitey was never a rat. the trial could wrap up this week. bulger might still take the stand. the judge saying she will ask his defense team at the end of the day whether he will testify or not. joining us now, our legal panel, a criminal defense attorney and phillips snyder, a former prosecutor. if whitey bulger were your client, would you put him on the stand? >> no. i wouldn't except that he's 83 years old and it seems like he's very strong willed and his lawyers may not be able to control him if he wants to take the stand. taking the stand in your own defense is a right, specifically given to the defendant. a lawyer can give their advice but can't prevent their client from testifying. so if i were him, if i were his lawyer, i would not want him to testify but he may not have any control over his client. jon: but phillip, his defense attorney has already said in opening arguments he's guilty of several crimes, supposedly his goal is, you know, if
defense attorneys also calling a retired f.b.i. agent to the stand, trying to prove whitey was never a rat. the trial could wrap up this week. bulger might still take the stand. the judge saying she will ask his defense team at the end of the day whether he will testify or not. joining us now, our legal panel, a criminal defense attorney and phillips snyder, a former prosecutor. if whitey bulger were your client, would you put him on the stand? >> no. i wouldn't except that he's 83 years...
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what you see, those are the people indigent defenders people who have no money for defense. that's why i was helping other lawyers defend them is almost all african-american and minorities. and then when you hear the charges, loitering, drugs, public alcohol use and you look at the master, the larger master sticks that show in some cases in the element of pot, much more use by whites than african-americans, four times the punishment for african-americans and you think this is a story we have to tell. the trayvon martin george zimmerman was one story. it got the rez 0 respond. there's other stories we very to tell. >> we're delighted you're covering it. find out much more at ari's blog, tv.msnbc.com. we'll be right back in a moment. did you know, your eyes can lose vital nutrients as you age? [ male announcer ] that's why there's ocuvite to help replenish key eye nutrients. ocuvite has a unique formula not found in your multivitamin to help protect your eye health. ocuvite. help protect your eye health. ocuvite. okay, a? b? b. a? that's a great choice. let me show you some fa
what you see, those are the people indigent defenders people who have no money for defense. that's why i was helping other lawyers defend them is almost all african-american and minorities. and then when you hear the charges, loitering, drugs, public alcohol use and you look at the master, the larger master sticks that show in some cases in the element of pot, much more use by whites than african-americans, four times the punishment for african-americans and you think this is a story we have to...
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i want to bring in former prosecutor monica lindstrom and criminal defense attorney eric johnson. welcome. first to hear this young man's story, the five days and being forgotten. >> it's horrible. >> it's terrible. >> it's terrible. what do you think as far as do you ning he could have gotten more had there been a jury? has this thing gone to trial? >> i think he could have gotten a significant amount more money if the matter went to trial. i'm also wondering why he chose to settle so soon? >> what do you think about that? smart move? >> smart move by the department of justice, dea, everybody involved. if they had to go to trial they could put up witness after witness about his psychological state, physical state, what he would have had to go through in the 12 hours, 24 hours, 48 hours, on and on and on. by the end the jury probably would have said, you just write a blank check. just ask us for how much you want. >> how do you put a price tag on this? how did they come up with this $1 million figure? just curious. >> i don't know how they came up with the amount. >> $4 million. f
i want to bring in former prosecutor monica lindstrom and criminal defense attorney eric johnson. welcome. first to hear this young man's story, the five days and being forgotten. >> it's horrible. >> it's terrible. >> it's terrible. what do you think as far as do you ning he could have gotten more had there been a jury? has this thing gone to trial? >> i think he could have gotten a significant amount more money if the matter went to trial. i'm also wondering why he...
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for more now, let's bring in defense attorney david wahl and esther pennich. physical attacks we've seen, damaging property, all that kind of stuff. that is nothing compared to what they are looking at right now. david, how serious is this? what about these federal charges? >> they're very serious. each one is facing up to 50 year in federal prison. they must have the goods on them, documentary evidence proving they phonied up tax returns and documents to get home loans. the federal charges are serious. if you get time you do about 85% of the time you get. this is the type of case where you've got to argue, because the facts are on your side, argue from an emotional standpoint, monetary standpoint. they have tremendous earning power, apparently. you want to have the taxes paid, as a federal government, the restitution paid. they have four young kids as well. you don't want the kids going into foster care, you don't want the kids being without a mother and father. you may have to argue this case from an emotional standpoint. they're not going to get a long time
for more now, let's bring in defense attorney david wahl and esther pennich. physical attacks we've seen, damaging property, all that kind of stuff. that is nothing compared to what they are looking at right now. david, how serious is this? what about these federal charges? >> they're very serious. each one is facing up to 50 year in federal prison. they must have the goods on them, documentary evidence proving they phonied up tax returns and documents to get home loans. the federal...
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>> brian, the thing i think links what bill o'reilly said on his program last night and ray kelly's defense of his record is the idea that the best thing you can do for young african-american men, young african-americans in general is have a very intense law and order state that is very aggressive about policing and putting wrongdoers in jail because the victims of those wrongdoers are, themselves, african-american, and you have spent your adult career working in the criminal justice system. my question to you is, does that argument have purchase with you? >> no, it really doesn't. it's a distraction. trayvon martin wasn't killed because he didn't have two parents who loved him. he wasn't killed because of some social deficit or some cultural deficit. he was killed because of a p presumption of guilt. all over this country, we're allowing black and brown children to be burdened with the presumption of guilt so they live their whole lives always being suspected. we had the president of the united states acknowledging his own dealings with this p presumption of guilt. when anyone says that's
>> brian, the thing i think links what bill o'reilly said on his program last night and ray kelly's defense of his record is the idea that the best thing you can do for young african-american men, young african-americans in general is have a very intense law and order state that is very aggressive about policing and putting wrongdoers in jail because the victims of those wrongdoers are, themselves, african-american, and you have spent your adult career working in the criminal justice...